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Anonimas


# Posted: 19 Feb 2012 05:18


sveiki,
noreciau paklausti jusu nuomones apie 115 grain kulka .270 win sautuvui.ar yra bandziusiu sia kulka medziokleje,kokia kulkos skvarba 100-150m atstume i zveri.dziauliu kaip ir uztenka,greitis kulkos irgi ispudingas,teoriskai kaip ir turetu buti idealu.noretusi suzinoti isbandziusiu nuomone.aciu.
p.s. visada naudojau 130 grain (8.42g.) kulkas,sautuva jomis esu atsisaudes,uztikrintai krenta visi zverys,bet sudomino 115gr. butent tuo,kad perpus mazesne atatranka,ir lekstesne trajektorija.

PAKO


# Posted: 23 Feb 2012 17:57 - Edited by: PAKO


Anonimas
Klausimas aisku nelengvas, bet glima pabandyti atsakyti

Pagal mano skaiciavima 270win sios kulkos (115grain) SD = 214 o tai yra praktiskai tas pats kas 243 win ir 90 grain'u kulka, sakyciau labiau smulkios ir vidutines faunos uztaisas.

P.S. 270win ir 130grain'u kulka yra idealus derinys - There is no magic caliber, and no magic bullet. If there were I would be inclined to nominate the .270 caliber and the 130 grain bullet for the honors.
The 130 grain .270 bullet has a SD of .242. This is identical to the 100 grain .243 bullet (also noted for deep penetration) and similar to the 140 grain 7mm and 165 grain .30 caliber bullets. It is considerably superior to the 150 grain .30 caliber bullet (SD .226) to which the 130 grain .270 load is often mistakenly compared.


http://www.chuckhawks.com/sd_beginners.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/sd.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_SD_list.htm

243" (6mm) 90 grain, SD .218
.243" (6mm) 100 grain, SD .242
.257" (.25) 100 grain, SD .216
.257" (.25) 115 grain, SD .249
.264" (6.5mm) 120 grain, SD .247
.277" (.270) 130 grain, SD .242
.284" (7mm) 140 grain, SD .248
.308" (.30) 150 grain, SD .226
.308" (.30) 165 grain, SD .248
.321" (8mm) 170 grain, SD .236
.338" (.338) 200 grain, SD .250
.358" (.35) 200 grain, SD .223
As you can see, all of the above have a sectional density over .215, and the average is about .237. That is the kind of SD you should look for in a bullet for medium game.

For large game bullets with higher sectional density should be chosen. Good examples of such bullets would be:

.264" (6.5mm) 140 grain, SD .287
.277" (.270) 150 grain, SD .279
.284" (7mm) 160 grain, SD .283
.308" (.30) 180 grain, SD .271
.321" (8mm) 200 grain, SD .274
.338" (.338) 225 grain, SD .281
.358" (.35) 250 grain, SD .279
.375" (.375) 270 grain, SD .274
.458" (.45) 400 grain, SD .272
All of the bullets immediately above have a sectional density over .270. The average SD of these bullets is about .279. Bullets of this sectional density, if well constructed, have proven able to penetrate deep into big game animals.

I did a quick survey of the hunting bullets with SD's over .300 available in common factory loads and to the reloader in the various rifle calibers. These are the top calibers and bullet weights for maximum penetration:

.264" (6.5mm) 160 grain, SD .328
.284" (7mm) 175 grain, SD .310
.308" (.30) 200 grain, SD .301
.308" (.30) 220 grain, SD .331
.321" (8mm) 220 grain, SD .301
.338" (.338) 250 grain, SD .313
.375" (.375) 300 grain, SD .305
.416" (.416) 400 grain, SD .330
.458" (.45) 500 grain, SD .341

PAKO


# Posted: 23 Feb 2012 18:27 - Edited by: PAKO


115gr kulkom efektyviau saudys ir didesne skvarba bei dar geresne trajektorija tures 25-06 Remington kalibras Labai idomus ir nemaza gerbeju rata turintis sovinukas, be to ir didele dalis ginklu gamintoju sriegia/kala vamzdzius siam sovinukui, nenoredami atsilikti nuo vis didejancios paklausos jam

Dar pridedu Killing power (nuzudymo jegos) apskaiciavimo metodika - http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_killing_power_list .htm

PAKO


# Posted: 23 Feb 2012 22:46


Paskaiciavau "killing power" pagal duota formule 270win :

130 grain - 34,82
115 grain - 28,21

Anonimas


# Posted: 24 Feb 2012 02:10


aciu uz info,pako,
matai,turiu .270 win sautuva,ir greitu laiku nepirksiu kito,kad ir kaip to noreciau,.. radau papildomos informacijos apie 115 gr. "low recoil" sovinukus,tame paciame chuckhawks puslapyje,(beje,labai issamiai paaiskinama apie daug svarbiu dalyku),tai praktiskai jei saunama bus iki 200 m., tai kulka dar turi apie 1000 dziauliu,turetu pakakti normaliam kanopiniam,bet po to kulka stipriai krenta ,ir skirtumas 115 ir 130 sudaro apie 10 cm ant 300 m.reikes saudykloj pasisaudyti,paziuret,kaip ten kas..

PAKO


# Posted: 24 Feb 2012 11:10


Anonimas
Beje, kokiais 130gr kulka uztaisytais sovinukais dabar saudai ?
Ir apie kieno gaminamus 115g sovinius eina kalba, kur galima isigyti ?

Anonimas


# Posted: 25 Feb 2012 02:46


sveikas,
cia as apie tokius domejausi
http://www.basspro.com/Remington-ManagedRecoil-Cen terfire-Rifle-Ammo/product/69939/64162
cia aprasymas apie "low recoil" sovinukus
http://www.chuckhawks.com/rem_managed_recoil.htm

perku 130 gr tokius ir is cia
http://www.basspro.com/Remington-Whitetail-Pro-Cor eLokt-Centerfire-Rifle-Ammo/product/86757/122505
anksciau naudojau hornady
,http://www.basspro.com/Hornady-Superformance-SST- Bullets/product/10208015/120005
patiko man jie ,tik suvis labai "astrus",kulkos eina taikliau nei remingtono,bet kaina 50% didesne.bet kadangi nesaudau i zveris is dideliu atstumu,tai pradejau dometis svelnesniais sovinukais,nors dekle visada kelis laikau hornady,- maza kas...

PAKO


# Posted: 25 Feb 2012 20:22


Anonimas
Matyt ne Lietuvoj gyveni, pas mus ribotos galimybes su sovinuku uzsakymu is tokiu vietu...
Brukstel savo meil'a jei gali,reik pasneket

P.S. As irgi turiu 270win

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